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perhaps hiking taxes on the rich is up with of them. but that does not mean we don't do a lick about our debt. not getting a handle on spending wasn't one of them. hearing only one side don't make you a journalist but doing so to ignore the other side makes you charyl top. charlatan. go after the goose, go after the gander. what is a gander? do you know? be fair, balanceed. both sides. have at it. >> dana: hello, i'm dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, eric bolling, andrea tantaros. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> dana: earlier today, president obama held the final press conference of his first term in the east room of the white house. the main attraction, our old friend the debt ceiling. they could default on the debt, unless the debt ceiling is raised. republicans want the president to cut spending before they i gree on a deal. but the president at no time seem eager for compromise. listen. >> we have to stop lurking from crisis to crisis to crisis. when there is a clear pass that requires disci
perhaps hiking taxes on the rich is up with of them. but that does not mean we don't do a lick about our debt. not getting a handle on spending wasn't one of them. hearing only one side don't make you a journalist but doing so to ignore the other side makes you charyl top. charlatan. go after the goose, go after the gander. what is a gander? do you know? be fair, balanceed. both sides. have at it. >> dana: hello, i'm dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, eric bolling, andrea...
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he's right on the tax stuff. on the other stuff it'd be pretty hard for him to make an argument that the american he people voted for gun control or unconditional increases in borrowing. >> megyn: back on the issue of gun control to leave it at this, vice-president biden is going to give recommendations we understand tomorrow to the president, as he's been known to do, put his foot in his mouth a bit on friday when he said the following: . >> we know there's, there's no silver bullet and there's no, as one of my friends said, no seat belt to put on to assure you will not be in this circumstance again. i'm going to be submitting to the president i think a proposal as to how to proceed. i'm shooting for tuesday, hope i can get it done by then. >> megyn: and the hits on the tape how it came to us. the vice-president talking the gun proposal, no silver bullet, but shooting for tuesday, the recommendations. thoughts on that, chris? >> we're grateful to vice-president biden, we're grateful to vice-president biden, all
he's right on the tax stuff. on the other stuff it'd be pretty hard for him to make an argument that the american he people voted for gun control or unconditional increases in borrowing. >> megyn: back on the issue of gun control to leave it at this, vice-president biden is going to give recommendations we understand tomorrow to the president, as he's been known to do, put his foot in his mouth a bit on friday when he said the following: . >> we know there's, there's no silver...
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taxes. that is a radical move. he wants to shift instead to a sales tax, higher sales tax, shifting from income taxes to consumption taxes. he thinks that will give the state growth, bring in employers, create jobs, make the economy of louisiana expand, and basically progress. >> he's saying if you make louisiana a great place to come, companies will come. >> yes. >> peter: and people will have work? >> yes. >> peter: but the trade-off is, higher sales tax. so the question today is, that a regresssive tax? >> yes. >> peter: as you economists say? >> yes. >> peter: what does that mean? >> everybody pays it. no relation to how much you earn. it's how much you spend. you pay tax according to what you spend. a sales tax, it tax consumption. so in that sense, yes. it is regresssive. but on the other hand, if the absence of income taxes creates a growing economy, everybody wins from that. >> peter: some states don't have income tax. >> there are seven. i'll read them, alaska, florida, nevada, sout
taxes. that is a radical move. he wants to shift instead to a sales tax, higher sales tax, shifting from income taxes to consumption taxes. he thinks that will give the state growth, bring in employers, create jobs, make the economy of louisiana expand, and basically progress. >> he's saying if you make louisiana a great place to come, companies will come. >> yes. >> peter: and people will have work? >> yes. >> peter: but the trade-off is, higher sales tax. so the...
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various tax proposals are taking shape that could cut taxes in a big way. matt mccall, penn financial group. steve moore, "wall street journal.". good morning. love having you on. we can talk about what the government is doing with he have too. talk about what the markets are doing with matt. stephen moore, tell me, bobby jindal in louisiana, what his idea is, that is helping to drive this headline today? >> well, bill, he wants to make louisiana one of those, join the ranks of those nine states across the united states that don't have an income tax. those are states like texas and florida and tennessee and new hampshire and washington, navy. they're doing develop economically much better. art laffer who you have on the show a lot and we do a study, called rich states, poor states we find significant growth in those that don't have income taxes. texas isp booming. florida is doing well, tennessee. louisiana wants to join the states to get more job and higher income jobs. bill: bobby jindal wants to get in on the action? >> yeah. bill: what is the effect whe
various tax proposals are taking shape that could cut taxes in a big way. matt mccall, penn financial group. steve moore, "wall street journal.". good morning. love having you on. we can talk about what the government is doing with he have too. talk about what the markets are doing with matt. stephen moore, tell me, bobby jindal in louisiana, what his idea is, that is helping to drive this headline today? >> well, bill, he wants to make louisiana one of those, join the ranks of...
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i have also said that we need more revenue, through tax reform, by closing loopholes in our tax code for the wealthiest americans. if we combine a balanced package of savings from spending on health care and revenues from closing loopholes, we can solve the deficit issue without sacrificing our investments in things like education that are going to help us grow. turns out the american people agree with me. they listened to an entire year's debate over this issue and they made a clear decision about the approach they prefer. they don't think it is fair, for example, to ask a senior to pay more for his or her health care or a scientist to shut down life heavy saving research so the that a multimillionaire investor can pay less in tax rates than a secretary. they don't think it is smart to protect endless corporate loopholes and tax breaks for the wealthiest americans, rather than rebuild our roads and our schools, invest in our workers skills or help manufacturers bring jobs back to america. so they want us to get our books in order in a balanced way where everybody pulls their weight,
i have also said that we need more revenue, through tax reform, by closing loopholes in our tax code for the wealthiest americans. if we combine a balanced package of savings from spending on health care and revenues from closing loopholes, we can solve the deficit issue without sacrificing our investments in things like education that are going to help us grow. turns out the american people agree with me. they listened to an entire year's debate over this issue and they made a clear decision...